Serious danger

edited July 2008 in General
Everyone,

Last night, my girlfriend and I watched I Am Legend. Afterwards we were talking about infestations, which inevitably led to a conversation about zombies in general. She wanted to discuss how to handle such a situation. Feeling well versed on the subject matter, I started describing preparation at the immediate outbreak, and then I realized that I am in serious danger. China is a very different climate, and I am worried for my life in a zombie outbreak.

I need help preparing for a zombie attack. Here are my problems:

1. Most homes do not have bathtubs. Filling up on water would be extremely difficult, even considering that tap water is unsuitable for drinking in most circumstances.

2. Hundreds of millions of people own cell phones. The networks have issues handling the flux of people using them, such as on Chinese New Years. Many places do not use land lines, so communication may be difficult in the event of an outbreak

3. Civilians can not own firearms. I can't buy guns. The only bladed weapons I can feasibly come by are kitchen butchers knives. Swords sold here are strictly ornamental. Even then, I don't know how to fight with a sword. If I had to, I would, but inexperience would cause me to fatigue quickly, or make a fatal mistake. I suppose I could learn.

4. I live in a city of over 6 million people. That's a lot of zombies. Obviously, I need to get out of the city, but the infrastructure can barely handle rush hour traffic, much less a fear based exodus. I could be trapped.

Right now, things do not look promising. But I know The Orange Belt is considered home to many of the leading authorities in zombie knowledge, zombie combat, and zombie infestation survival.

Preparation is the key to survival. Let's figure this out.
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  • edited March 2008
    Actually, you just gave me a great idea to write a zombie story set in China. The worst place for an outbreak you say? I say the greatest zombie story ever.
  • edited March 2008
    Prepare yourself with a trusty fire-axe and basically a carryable amount of essential supplies. Upon the outbreak head for the nearest concentration of police/army types.

    At the first opportunity grab yourself a shitload of weapons and supplies, load up an APC (or a tank) and drive over everything else on your way to somewhere remote.

    Failing that you could go the 'mole-man' route. Start digging out a survival bunker for now, and when that's complete start tunneling to large shopping malls (for easy foraging access) and, if you have the time, right out of the major population districts.

    Or you could go the SCIENCE! route and build yourself a decent anti-bite armour suit (or go the whole hog and build yourself a powered exo-skeleton. With flamethrowers!) and simply stroll through the encroaching zombie hordes. The only drawback to the plan being that whilst being bite proof, that wouldn't stop zombies from just piling on top of you until you couldn't move and then starving to death underneath a pile of rotting corpses. Which would be a pretty shitty way to go.

    ETA: Hot-air balloon would work for escape too. Just don't rely on too much accuracy on where you end up.

    Or an obscenely complex network of flying foxes charting an escape route across the whole city. It'd be stylish, but probably a lot more work than is strictly necessary.
  • edited March 2008
    Who cares about zombies? Brawl is out.
  • edited March 2008
    But wait! You saw the incorrect ending to I Am Legend!

    http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/03/05/must-watch-i-am-legends-original-ending-this-is-amazing/

    This is the real ending. Or at least, it should be!
  • edited March 2008
    The first thing I would suggest, but this really applies for everyone, is to stay vigilant. Keep on the lookout for any reports of strange deaths, mutilated corpses, cannabalism, etc. There are always signs before any kind of really bad outbreak.

    Second. arrange the use of a helicopter or similar air vehicle if you can. When the hungry dead are shambling around the streets it wont matter if it's stolen or what. this is super key since, as you said, congestion is such a problem in China

    If getting a heli is impossible, pretty much in most cases, and you feel it's best to get the hell out of dodge then you should hop on a bike and make your way out of the city as quickly as possible. Bikes offer a lot of advantages over cars in that they don't run out of fuel, and are fairly portable, especially the cool folding bikes they have over there.

    Third. Prepare a weapon (I myself have a a metal bat handy if things should take a turn for the worse). A bat or some similar blunt object has the same advantage as a bike in that it won't ever run out of ammo, they're simple and they get the job done, the biggest disadvantage being that you have a very limted range. Consider purchasing a hunting crossbow or something.

    Fourth. If you are really, really stuck in the city, take advantage of the crowding and utilize a high rise apartment (they have a lot of those in China right?). make ground access impossible by any means. Barricade entrances, destroy stairs, whatever. Just make sure that nothing can get up to your sky-top fortress.

    I hope that helps a bit.
  • edited March 2008
    If getting a heli is impossible, pretty much in most cases, and you feel it's best to get the hell out of dodge then you should hop on a bike and make your way out of the city as quickly as possible. Bikes offer a lot of advantages over cars in that they don't run out of fuel, and are fairly portable, especially the cool folding bikes they have over there.

    There's huge disadvantage to bikes, though. The fact that you have no protection at all. Any random zombie could bite you while you're trying to cycle through the city, not to mention the lack of force that comes from a bike (that is, unless, you have unbelievably powerful calves). Not only is running a zombie over with a bicycle rather impossible, it could even cause more problems, since it'd slow you down while you're trying to get your bike upright and back in riding position. Although, as you stated, it'd probably be more effective to keep a melee weapon on hand for biking. Still, even with the gas problem, a bicycle seems more like a last resort vehicle than anything else.
  • edited March 2008
    You're right, it's not perfect, but a bike is not about to get stuck in the deadlocked traffic that is sure to follow a mass panic as everyone tries to drive out to the country.

    I know biking seems terribly exposed, but I can't think of any other vehicle that doesn't have a serious, serious flaw when it comes to a zombie outbreak.
  • edited March 2008
    I think we're all missing the real problem here: I Am Legend was a shitty movie.
  • edited March 2008
    Hole up in an upper floor of a building, hollowing out holes between the apartments and floors to expand, leaving every door but one or two sealed over, the others heavily fortified. Spread through the building slowly, clean out apartments and seal them off after they're safe.

    Build rain-collection setups and a farm plot on the roof. Over time, expand to nearby buildings with homemade bridges.
    mario wrote: »
    I think we're all missing the real problem here: I Am Legend was a shitty movie.
    I was hoping for an urban Castaway with zombie vampires. I was disappointed.
  • edited March 2008
    I am Legend was disappointing because it didn't have a Heston-esque screaming monologue to nobody.

    And I'd say that clearing out an apartment building/general high-rise would only be a worthwhile plan if you got it fortified very early in the apocalypse. Clearing out a building filled with a thousand or so flesh-eating zombies could take a while.

    You might want to start making a list of other people you know that you think could survive. Setup meeting points and build yourself a decent team of survivors. Remember - in the apocalypse there is no room for passengers.
  • edited March 2008
    Jet Packs. You're all forgetting about Jet Packs.
  • edited March 2008
    If he builds a robotic exo-skeleton I would have thought the jetpacks went without saying.
  • edited March 2008
    The alternate ending to I Am Legend really was a lot better. Oh well. I paid about $1 buck for the pirated version, no real loss.

    I like the idea of setting up a team of survivors. I am also going to start looking into building an exoskeleton. What the exoskeleton needs is about 50 high pressure compressed springs all over it, so that if I get toppled by a horde of burning death zombies, I can activate the springs and bounce everything, including myself, away.
  • edited March 2008
    Agreed, the alternate ending is better, much better. That would have made the movie worth it. Alas, Hollywood does not give the viewers much credit.
  • edited March 2008
    The alternate ending is better, but it doesn't change the fact that the dog died...
  • edited March 2008
    He strangled his dog. That was awesome.
  • edited March 2008
    That wasn't awesome, I like dogs.
  • edited March 2008
    Even angry zombie dogs who's only goal in life is to eat your face?
  • edited March 2008
    The dog death was such a cheap, forced way to tug at viewer heartstrings. Hey, let's put a cute lovable character in the movie just so we can kill it violently in order to artificially push the protagonist over the edge and create drama where it wasn't necessary!

    [size=+4]Let's do that.[/size]
  • edited March 2008
    That dog had the same name and was the same breed as my old dog! And also had surprisingly similar markings. And also didn't eat its vegetables.

    Mine was a male, though.
  • edited March 2008
    mario wrote: »
    The dog death was such a cheap, forced way to tug at viewer heartstrings. Hey, let's put a cute lovable character in the movie just so we can kill it violently in order to artificially push the protagonist over the edge and create drama where it wasn't necessary!

    [size=+4]Let's do that.[/size]

    So it was like "Shadow of the Colossus"?
  • edited March 2008
    You must not have finished the game, then. And besides... I don't think that was necessarily artificial. If it had any significance at all, it showed just how much the Wanderer was willing to sacrifice to get his way.
  • edited July 2008
    Okay, I had started this thread a few months ago about a hypothetical zombie attack on my city of Hangzhou. Now, I haven't thought about it lately, but now my fears have been rekindled.

    I was using an online Chinese map to find a zoo, and look what I found in the goddamn outskirts of the city!

    Umbrella.jpg

    It's Umbrella.
  • edited July 2008
    Haaahahaha, you're screwed. If you turn into a zombie, I promise I'll do my best to give you an awesome re-death.
  • edited July 2008
    That site looks damn nice, also good luck with those crazy, Chinese, commie zombies.
  • edited July 2008
    Holy crap that's pretty insane. I don't know whether you should organize a resistance or get the hell out.
  • edited July 2008
    Psh, all you need in case of Umbrella is a crap load of weapons and a neat snazzy little hat of your choice. Aim for the neck, it seems to be the sweet spot for head shots with zombies. Good luck!
  • edited July 2008
    Therein lies the problem, discussed earlier in the thread. Firearms cannot be obtained here. I'm in a city of 6.66 million people (that's not a joke), I cannot obtain firearms, and Umbrella has some sort of operations set up in the outskirts of my city.

    I'm totally screwed.

    Edit: NoLonger, that map is really awesome, and I find it better than Google. It's a 3D map set up for every major city in the country. You can hover the mouse over any building, and it will tell you what the building is and what its address is. Thousands of people submit photos too, so many locations have photos you can see so you know for certain what you're looking for. It also has comprehensive bus transportation data along with visible routes to see where they go. It's pretty awesome software.
  • edited July 2008
    I say just get a scimitar then.
  • edited July 2008
    The lack of weapons is troubling, but it's something we simply have to work with. Have you considered working on home defense systems as a preemptive measure? A good fortification begins at home, and if (when) the zombie outbreak goes down, there isn't going to be a safe place anywhere on the planet, so you might as well prepare your home for the long haul. Stock up on non-perishable foodstuffs and water bottles, install bars in your windows, and get a nice strong lock for the front door. Ideally, you'd want to replace the door entirely, as zombies tend to push up against the entry point en masse until it gives way; a nice thick steel door ought to do the trick. And spare no expense! Don't go for cheap solutions when your life is at stake. If you've got time to prepare after the zombies rise, try erecting a false wall in front of your door (taking a page from Dawn of the Dead). There's a chance zombies will leave your little nook alone for awhile, giving you further preparation time as needed.

    Note that you will probably never have the opportunity to open that front door again, so make sure you have some other means of leaving the building (like a fire escape with a retractable ladder; you don't want to give the zombies another method of entry in the process). Though it is likely that this will be your home for the foreseeable future, a contingency escape plan should always be available. If possible, rent out a storage facility and keep a vehicle there with a full tank of gas. Make sure the facility can be accessed with a key, and not an electronic locking system (we have to assume that the city will lose power without an infrastructure of living humans to maintain things). Don't get anything too large, a nice fuel-efficient two-seater will mean less refueling in a time when the ability to refuel may be very scarce indeed. But it should be able to accommodate whatever you need to carry with you. Mostly the vehicle is a means to quickly reach one destination (say, the last human stronghold?), rather than something to depend on for months at a time.

    Get a battery-powered radio, in case the government starts issuing official instructions on how civilians should proceed (take their advice or leave it, you've got a killer fort). Consider also purchasing a CB radio, so as to attempt communication with the outside world; the infrastructure necessary to run CB radio will probably last far longer than the hard phone lines and the cell towers, though you should also keep a cell phone on you just in case you can get a signal.