Linux (why, which, and how?)

edited July 2008 in Tech
Why should I use or Dual-boot with Linux?

Which Linux Distribution should I use?

And how do I go about getting/installing/using it?


Thanks!

Comments

  • edited June 2008
    -If you have a specific reason that you need Linux, yes, otherwise no.
    -I'm no help here. Wait for someone else to make a recommendation if necessary.
    -You could look into virtualization using vmware, but that may not be the best option depending on what you need Linux for. That's more appropriate for using multiple OS's simultaneously.
  • edited June 2008
    XoLore wrote: »
    -If you have a specific reason that you need Linux, yes, otherwise no.

    What he said.

    -Fedora or Ubuntu are both relatively user friendly and good for beginners.
    -Google it, there's a zillion tutorials. out there. I haven't done it yet (probably will on my lap top when I go to school next year.) but my friends have and it only requires a reasonable amount of computer literacy.
  • edited June 2008
    What would those specific reason be?
  • edited June 2008
    Zlamzambo wrote: »
    What would those specific reason be?

    A strong liking of penguins.
  • edited June 2008
    This is thread 1337!! I was hoping to try to create a thread for it but I was way too late ^_^

    Okay, I'll go back into my little corner now...
  • edited June 2008
    XoLore wrote: »
    -If you have a specific reason that you need Linux, yes, otherwise no.
    Windows just won't work on my computer. =(

    Ubuntu seems to be the trendy Linux distro lately, I've been using it for months and I'm relatively pleased with it. Just make sure you download the correct version for your processor (I have a 64-bit processor).

    You can download the latest version of Ubuntu, which is 8.04, or request a free CD of it to be sent to you and boot it straight off the CD to see how it works without even installing it.
  • edited June 2008
    I vote you just stick with what you have until there is no other means of survival besides Linux.
  • edited June 2008
    I think Linux is good for dual booting, if only that it'll give you some real experience in al alternative operating system, plus it's handy if your windows partition goes tits up (although a Live CD can also, but that undermines me trying to convince you, so ignore this).

    I'd recommend either Ubuntu, Fedora or OpenSuse. Don't try those ones that are aimed at windows switchers like Lindows (Now called Linspire). All they are is meh-ish linux distros with meh-ish custom themes and sometimes Wine pre-installed.

    As for installing, well the Ubuntu liveCD comes with GPart which allows you to resize an NTFS partition, I'd recommend at least 15Gb for linux. While you're in GParted create two partitons. One 14Gb partition for linux proper with the ext3 file system (assuming you're using 15Gb) and 1Gb for the linux swap in Linux Swap file system.

    As for using it, well ubuntu is pretty easy to use anyway, but first things first, update the OS, most modern linuxes do that from the menu. Then, if you're a windows switcher, I'd recommend checking out WINE.

    Oh, btw: If you choose either Fedora or OpenSUSE, choose the GNOME graphical system, not KDE. KDE sucks balls.
  • edited June 2008
    Nobody NEEDS Linux (except Hamelin of course; weep for him). As has been mentioned before, if you have no reason to use Linux, then don't. It's a great OS, but mostly exists as an alternative to Windows. If enough things about Windows annoy you, maybe you could consider a dual-boot solution, but switching OSes is a massive undertaking, and not a decision to be made lightly. I would definitely burn a live CD to test the waters before making any decisions.
  • edited June 2008
    Well, having used Ubuntu for almost half a year now, I have to say I love it way more than Windows. Things about Ubuntu just don't piss me off like Windows did.

    If only Wine worked a lot better...
  • edited June 2008
    Oh come now. You can't say that Linux is totally better than Windows, if only it could run Windows stuff. Clearly you still have a need and dependency on Windows if you need to run its executables. I have to wonder what percentage of average Windows users could seriously quit Windows cold turkey for Linux.
  • edited June 2008
    We shall do an experiment then! Get three members of the forum to go without windows for a week by installing linux onto a USB hard drive. See how long it is before they need a windows app!
  • edited June 2008
    Sounds cruel to me. I like it.
  • edited June 2008
    If I stopped playing games, I could definitely use Linux without issue. But I like my steam games.
  • edited June 2008
    mario wrote: »
    Oh come now. You can't say that Linux is totally better than Windows, if only it could run Windows stuff. Clearly you still have a need and dependency on Windows if you need to run its executables. I have to wonder what percentage of average Windows users could seriously quit Windows cold turkey for Linux.
    Games. Everything else I've found alternatives for.

    Sure, I could play Warsow some more, and Ur-Quan masters works along with most emulators, but I bloody would like to be able to play games on my well-running OS.

    I hate having to boot up my huge, battery-less laptop to play games on. My computer is much better.

    Besides, back when I was dual-booting, I only used Windows to play games on anyway. Despite compatibility failings, Linux just runs better during normal use.
  • edited June 2008
    I'm not trying to say that Linux is inferior to Windows. But compatibility issues are the reason that Linux will probably never catch on as a consumer-level desktop operating system replacement for Windows. Well, that and the snail's pace of open source software development. And crappy GUIs.

    Tux is cool though.
  • edited June 2008
    What's crappy about the GUI?

    If market share increases enough, companies that actually sell stuff will start developing for linux. Big-name games come out for Macs now and they have what, 10% market share at most.
  • edited July 2008
    Yes, but how does market share increase before big-name software gets released for Linux? "Zlamzambo asking about what the deal is with Linux" is not a satisfactory response.

    Mac OS X and Linux may share similar market share, but their situations couldn't really be any different. Linux never established itself as an operating system for creative-types or educational markets, and there aren't any large-scale Linux developers that also design the hardware. But the biggest difference with Linux is the vast number of distros. If Zlamzambo was asking about what the deal was with Mac OS X, it's a trivial matter to state that there is one version of Mac OS X, but Linux has multiple versions, many of which don't play nice with each other, and there aren't any good resources online for sifting through the differences. A user has to pick one that they think suits their needs, try it, and move on to something else if it's unsatisfactory.

    I hate to sound like a Linux-hater, I'm really not. Linux has made amazing strides into the server market, and their operating system is perfectly suited for that environment, with its long uptimes and often small footprint. I just don't feel that it's desktop-class yet. Hopefully it'll get there someday, but as a desktop user, I don't feel like waiting around to see what could be eventually.
  • edited July 2008
    Hey! I'm posting from a computer running Ubuntu. So far this OS seams very good, I've yet to mess around with WINE or other programs. The Desktop looks nice and the computer is running better than when I had XP running (started getting blue screens, DARN YOU WINDOWS!). I'm going to look at what some of the programs are in Add/Remove programs and download some. This computer is sort of old so I haven't used any effects or stuff like that. I'll keep you posted as I check out some more things.

    P.S. The GLmatrix Screen Saver is awesome xD
  • edited July 2008
    If you have any sort of 3D acceleration at all the desktop effects will probably work fairly well. Compiz Fusion is much better written than Aero.
  • edited July 2008
    The best one used to be the bouncing cow, but that has been removed for some reason =(

    I loved the bouncing cow...
  • edited July 2008
    The Bouncing Cow is gone? You maniacs! You took it out! Damn you! Damn you all to Hell!

    *Checks Screensaver Preferences* Wait a minute, it's still there. What'chu talkin' 'bout, Night Lord?
  • edited July 2008
    Apparently it wasn't featured after Dapper, perhaps you kept it due to upgrading your existing system...
  • edited July 2008
    old news, but relevant.
  • edited July 2008
    Night Lord wrote: »
    Apparently it wasn't featured after Dapper, perhaps you kept it due to upgrading your existing system...
    Maybe. I don't usually bother with screensavers anyway. They're only on when I'm not there, so what's the point?
  • edited July 2008
    Because it's a freaking bouncing cow!