Doctor Who?

edited September 2012 in Movies and Shows
You see the series 5 premier yesterday? It was pretty amazing, Matt Smith especially was awesome, and pretty cute to boot. He basically captured the quirky personality of Tennent, and 11 is obviously more reckless than 10.
I like how the character evolves between regenerations. Nine was too serious and became silly, 10 became arrogant and had to become younger and more innocent.
The actress playing the companion Amy Pond is just over mediocre as far as acting ability goes, but she was pretty gorgeous in a normal sort of way.

Besides the actors, the new producer Stephen Moffat is amazing. His film direction is pretty great, and the CGI has improved just enough to keep that must have Dr Who cheesiness.

I like the new Tardis too, but me thinks there is a bit too much modern art glued to the walls; it's a bit cluttered. Hopefully we can see some of the other floors more often too, we only ever saw the closet in series 3 and then only the control room from then on.
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  • edited April 2010
    I've been... erm, popping over to Britain to watch them for the British premier times, so I've seen the first three episodes now.

    I really enjoyed Eleventh Hour. I was hoping Matt Smith would be good, and so far he is. He's enjoyable to watch, and you're right, he's different than the Tenth Doctor but has some similarities as well. But I think that, as many people have been saying, there's something of the Second Doctor there as well, which makes sense, since he loved the serial 'Tomb of the Cybermen.'

    As for Karen Gillan, well, I don't know, I feel like I'm not good at judging acting ability unless it's really bad. I'm just not terribly picky. Plus it always seems that for every actor, actress, plot, enemy, character, story device, TARDIS, whatever, there are people who say that it's awesome and people who say it's terrible. I don't even know how to judge these things anymore on any sort of objective basis. But I like her.

    I also do like the new TARDIS quite a bit. I liked the old one too... but this one seems even weirder and less conventional. I too hope to see more of the TARDIS. The earliest Doctor Who episodes actually showed the Doctor and his companions chilling in the TARDIS occasionally, and we saw bedrooms, food and water machines, and an instrument room. I'd like to see them explore the TARDIS a bit more, since, you know, they DO have to sleep and eat and relax, right?

    Bottom line: I do like the new series, even if there are times when it's irritated me, particularly in the latest episode, "Victory of the Daleks." But you gotta figure that when a show has this large of a budget on public television, there will always be creative compromises with the business team.
  • edited April 2010
    I've been... erm, popping over to Britain to watch them for the British premier times, so I've seen the first three episodes now.

    You asshole.
  • edited April 2010
    Lalalala, I've not been able to watch them yet until I can get my internet set up.


    This thread doesn't exist to me.
  • edited April 2010
    The season premiere/Doctor introduction was probably the best of the entire new series. The episode was constructed well with good pacing, and I liked Amelia Pond's performance. She's definitely got a little of Donna Noble's sass and refusal to put up with the absurd; this will likely help her a lot in the adventures to come.

    I am really not a fan of the overarching "crack in time" theme they're playing this season. It makes me long for the relatively nuanced subtlety of Bad Wolf. ^__^

    I didn't care for the WW2 Daleks in the latest episode, or their half-assed efforts to keep bringing back an enemy they keep killing off in such absolute terms. It'll be interesting to see the weeping angels again, except I thought they worked well as a one-off nemesis in Blink (still my favorite episode of the new series).
  • edited April 2010
    Yeah, the 'crack in the world' thing should be more downplayed, seriously. Davies did that a lot better, especially in series 4 where every so often someone would mention a lost planet but it fit seamlessly into the show as just conversation or part of the story. This is way too obvious.

    The Weeping Angels did work well as a one-off, but I think that Moffat is also planning on doing more with them. If I'm not mistaken, some have speculated that exiled Time Lords become Weeping Angels because of the way the Doctor's mother was holding her hands over here eyes in The End of Time. They might be a much more complicated enemy than we previously thought.

    And as for Daleks, well.... shit, you're so right. It's always some crazy circumstance that lets them come back in full force later so it never feels like the Doctor gets anywhere with them. There's only so much you can do with an enemy that represents absolute hatred and is immune to most weapons and can disintegrate anything it comes across. Why they haven't just shot the Doctor in the fifteen billion episodes with Daleks in it is beyond me.
  • edited April 2010
    The writers on nuWho need to realize that the reason why the Daleks were as well-liked as they were in the classic series was that they were rarely used. Tom Baker, the longest running Doctor of all time, only encountered them twice in his entire tenure. Most of the guys who came after him only ran into them once each. This whole business of bringing them back every single year (usually for an increasingly lacklustre season finale) really has to stop.

    I do like the Eleventh Doctor, and Amy Pond is shaping up to be among the best companions of the new series (not that there's a hell of a lot of competition there) but the writing of this season seems to just be more of the same - full of plot holes and unnecessary bombast. Still, it's early in the season, but if things don't shape up by the end I think I might just give up on this series for good, or at least until the next major change in production crews.
  • edited April 2010
    I don't want this thread to die. I love the new Doctor Who. I really don't care that there's plot holes or deus ex machinas everywhere. I want to enjoy myself when watching Doctor Who, and for the most part, I do with the new series. There are bad episodes, certainly, but I like the whole series! And we've just recently completed our collection of the Russel T. Davies years of Doctor Who... first series to complete specials! Woot! Looking forward to the Weeping Angels episode. Hopefully it will clear the bad taste in my mouth from the rainbow Daleks.
  • edited April 2010
    "Time is not the boss of me."

    Loved when the Doctor started imitating the TARDIS noise.
  • edited April 2010
    I do really enjoy what Moffat is doing with River Song here. This is the sort of thing that, you're right, DI, I love most about the show but that it doesn't do very often. They hint strongly that the Doctor is just freaked out by the idea of River because she's a certainty in his future, and as has been hinted several times in the show, certainty is exactly what the Doctor is running from. River is something he CANNOT run from. Unless of course she's making it all up. Some theories state that she's a future incarnation of the Doctor or that she's the Rani.

    EDIT: And yes, the Doctor imitating the TARDIS was one of the highlights of the episode. I'm still torn, though, on how to feel about the fact that they've forever stated that the TARDIS doesn't actually have to do that... that sound has been exactly the same since episode 1. It's a staple of the series.
  • edited April 2010
    The landing sound for the TARDIS wasn't always consistent in the early episodes.
  • edited April 2010
    Touche.
  • edited April 2010
    I liked the episode, but it's just further cementing everything I don't like about the new Doctor. It's a bit weird when the companion is consistently more clever than the 900+ year old Time Lord.

    River Song is a cool storyline. I love the idea of a nonlinear relationship (explored at great length with the trolls in Homestuck).
  • edited May 2010
    We have no need of comfy chairs.
  • edited May 2010
    Though some of you may disagree with me, I absolutely loved 'Amy's Choice'. I've almost always been a fan of episodes that slow down and just deal with the characters, and this episode felt like such great character development to me.
  • edited May 2010
    Hungry Earth was pretty enjoyable. It was nice to see the Silurians again, and I'm glad they retained the somewhat moral ambiguity with them. "They're not evil... well, only as evil as [humans] are." I do wish the Silurian's eyes didn't look so human, and it could possibly have been taken care of with special contacts. But other than that, I'm looking forward to the second part and ESPECIALLY the end of the season. There are so many crazy theories flying around and I wonder if the way-out-there ones have any truth to them.

    Also, in our quest to watch every single Doctor Who episode ever, Megan and are finishing up the Third Doctor's first season. Though still cheesy at times and with really REALLY bad special effects and costumes, it's quite fun.
  • edited May 2010
    Anyone else still watching this show?
  • edited May 2010
    I never watched this show, at any point in time, probably should though.

    Man, that was a totally useless comment, why did I post this?
  • edited May 2010
    Watching it over here. Amy's Choice was the last episode played (earlier this evening).

    So I'm thinking you guys are a bit ahead of me.
  • edited May 2010
    Only Britain is. I'm just being naughty.
  • edited May 2010
    The last couple of episodes were pretty shitty anyway. Definitely a low point in the season.

    What bugs me is that they're by a writer that's produced nothing but mediocre to terrible episodes for Doctor Who and yet they keep hiring him. Meanwhile the guy who wrote Dalek, one of the best episodes in the new series' run, has never been brought back.
  • edited July 2010
    We're watching the Fourth Doctor right now, and my god is he amazing. The character he's crafted is great, and right now the scripts are deliciously dark. I'm kinda sad because I know that after this season the executive producer had to make the episodes a bit lighter because of public pressure, but I totally understand why some consider Tom Baker to be the best Doctor. I don't yet completely agree, but he's hovering around the #2 spot.
  • edited July 2010
    I tried going straight through from the beginning with First Doctor, but ran out of steam pretty quickly. Those old episodes have such terrible writing, acting and production value, but I do see glimmers of what made the show popular at the time. I think I'd like to skip ahead to other Doctors. Are there specific ones I should be checking out?
  • edited July 2010
    If you want, I can give you a list of serials that I consider actually worth watching:

    First Doctor: The Sensorites, The Space Museum, The Ark. There's a few more that I liked (mostly for major plot point arcs and origin stuff) but they only exist as still frames and audio tracks. If you're up for watching reconstructions, watch The Tenth Planet. It's the first appearance of the Cybermen and the last First Doctor serial.

    Second Doctor: Tomb of the Cybermen, The Mind Robber, The War Games (lengthy, but it's the end of an era as it's the last Second Doctor serial and the last with Jamie and Zoe, two of my favorite companions). This is the era of the show with the most missing episodes, so if you want to watch some of them you have to sit through reconstructions, which makes it much more painful. But if you're up for it, I can recommend some good stories from among the missing serials.

    Third Doctor: Spearhead from Space, Terror of the Autons (first appearance of the Master!), The Three Doctors, The Green Death, Planet of the Spiders (if only to see the last Third Doctor serial and a RIDICULOUS multi-stage vehicle chase that takes up a whole episode XD). These are the ones that jump at me... The Mutants and Colony in Space are decent as well.

    Fourth Doctor: This is where the show really starts to get good. The Third Doctor spent a lot of time on Earth working for UNIT, so it got a bit stale after a while. The Fourth Doctor spends a lot more time in random places and the writing and acting gets better. The first two seasons are also way darker than previous and subsequent Who. There was a wave of concern that the show was getting too violent so supposedly they tamed it down after this. The show also takes a much more friendly format with this Doctor. For the most part, it's 5 4-parters and one 6-parter. If you're going to go straight through, I'd suggest starting with 'Robot', his first serial. If you don't want to go straight through, definitely watch The Sontaran Experiment, Genesis of the Daleks, and the Brain of Morbius. But all of the episodes we watched so far (we're on the Fourth Doctor's third season right now, The Hand of Fear) have been a big step up from the rest of the show.
  • edited July 2010
    If you like Doctor Who, watch Sherlock. It's kinda sorta in the same vein but not really. It's damn good.
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  • edited August 2010
    Pretty colors...
  • edited August 2010
    Aww, nostalgia... for earlier this year...
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  • edited August 2010
    So now in our quest to watch every episode of Doctor Who we've reached the point where the series is in decline. We've watched six seasons of the Fourth Doctor, and now producer John Nathan-Turner has come to the show and is systematically destroying everything that was great about the golden age of Old Who. I'm really sad to know that the best is over with.
  • edited August 2010
    The Peter Davison years were decent, as were Sylvester McCoy's second and third seasons (although his first was awful.)

    You're definitely in for a rough patch, though.