Oh, that title is hilarious. Silly alliteration. But thank you, Serephel, this is the opposing viewpoint I was looking for.
I mean, yeah, it might reduce fertility, and maybe it reduces the intensity of pleasure during sex, but honestly, I see those as good things. Furthermore, I feel like aesthetically a circumcised penis is much more attractive, and as far as upkeep goes, who wants an extra mucous membrane lying around that you have to worry about? And there's the inconvenience factor too... every time you urinate, you've gotta pull back your foreskin (I'm pretty sure).
The ideal, obviously, would be that everyone has a choice when they come of age. It's a lot harder, though, to do circumcision after a person has matured; it's a surgery, after all. It's much easier to do it to a newborn.
...I feel like aesthetically an uncircumcised penis is much more attractive
Do you mean a circumcised penis? In any case, I don't know any guy who would want to undergo surgery involving their manparts after they've realized how valuable it is to them. The idea of SHAVING is too scary for a bunch of guys I know, because a razor that close to their member is too much of a risk for their manliness.
I've heard once that a lower voice is actually a sign of higher testosterone (in men) therefore a sign of higher fertility, so that's one reason why girls find low voices really attractive.
So.... if that's true, what evolutionary factor made women start shaving their legs and armpits? Is excess hair a sign of reduced fertility in women, therefore men find it unattractive? One friend of mine once said that the perfect girl would be absolutely hairless except for the hair on her head, and someone replied to him that his perfect girl would be a realdoll. I mean, I'll go along with it, society has effectively trained me to view body hair on women as unattractive, but, really; that's just silly, isn't it?
Not as scary as footbinding though. At least shaving doesn't involve any pain (if you're doing it right).
I'm not so sure shaving had an evolutionary advantage so much as it became fashionable in modern cultures. If you want a crazy-ass based-on-nothing theory, I'd surmise that cosmetic alterations such as shaving, haircuts and makeup serve as identifications of gender, since we've worn clothing for many thousands of years that might obscure more obvious identifiers.
I remember reading somewhere that advertising is the reason why women shave. Razor companies wanted to sell razors to women as well as men, so they started an advertising line that suggested that body hair on a female is unattractive. It probably then was picked up by a culturally fashionable group of women and became the cool thing to do, and so spread throughout most of our culture.
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I really don't like body hair on men, either. I would be happy if I too had no hair but the hair on my head, eyebrows, and eyelashes. In other places it just gets in the way, and I don't like the way it looks.
Men cut their hair because soldiers would do so to prevent the enemy from grabbing it in battle, and everyone else thought that looking like a soldier would make people think they were cool.
The necktie can be traced back to the time of the Thirty Years' War (1618-1648) when Croatian mercenaries in French service, wearing their traditional small, knotted neckerchiefs, aroused the interest of the Parisians.[1] The new article of clothing started a fashion craze in Europe where both men and women wore pieces of fabric around their necks. In the late seventeenth century, the men wore lace cravats that took a large amount of time and effort to arrange. These cravats were often tied in place by cravat strings, arranged neatly and tied in a bow.
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I mean, yeah, it might reduce fertility, and maybe it reduces the intensity of pleasure during sex, but honestly, I see those as good things. Furthermore, I feel like aesthetically a circumcised penis is much more attractive, and as far as upkeep goes, who wants an extra mucous membrane lying around that you have to worry about? And there's the inconvenience factor too... every time you urinate, you've gotta pull back your foreskin (I'm pretty sure).
The ideal, obviously, would be that everyone has a choice when they come of age. It's a lot harder, though, to do circumcision after a person has matured; it's a surgery, after all. It's much easier to do it to a newborn.
I've heard once that a lower voice is actually a sign of higher testosterone (in men) therefore a sign of higher fertility, so that's one reason why girls find low voices really attractive.
So.... if that's true, what evolutionary factor made women start shaving their legs and armpits? Is excess hair a sign of reduced fertility in women, therefore men find it unattractive? One friend of mine once said that the perfect girl would be absolutely hairless except for the hair on her head, and someone replied to him that his perfect girl would be a realdoll. I mean, I'll go along with it, society has effectively trained me to view body hair on women as unattractive, but, really; that's just silly, isn't it?
Not as scary as footbinding though. At least shaving doesn't involve any pain (if you're doing it right).
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I really don't like body hair on men, either. I would be happy if I too had no hair but the hair on my head, eyebrows, and eyelashes. In other places it just gets in the way, and I don't like the way it looks.
And yes, thanks for pointing out my error, Mish.
We shave to look younger.
And that's where they started. I hates them.
People do that when I say Hi all the time...