So I guess you're saying you prefer console games, since you have so many listed? I'm not sure what you're saying with that link, since there are PC and console games there.
So it's $150 to upgrade the OS. That's already more than half a Wii. Figure a minimum of 512 MB RAM (which is laughable for the more powerful PC games. Try playing Half-Life 2 or Doom 3 with that amount of RAM and your computer will only fizzle and die) goes for around $100, and you're already up to a Wii, without getting the potential extra hard drive capacity that Vista and the games demand. But the new DirectX 10-ready graphics card is gonna be more than any of that combined, most likely. And this is all assuming your processor is up to the task.
And finally, not all gamers are prepared to overhaul their computers to play games. You have to factor in the convenience cost of throwing a console next to your TV, picking up a controller, and just playing the damn game, without having to spend hours installing new OS software and drivers.
The estimated value of the games? I dont see how that equates, since a vast majority of the games on your list are not available on the PC. I was talking about the cost of upgrading a PC versus purchasing a new console, and the value of your game library has no bearing on that. You would have been spending that same money on something close to an equivalent amount of PC games, so the value difference is virtually zero.
Yeah, bad example I guess. It doesn't count all the consoles you have to buy, all the accessories (extra controllers, memory cards, cables, etc.). Hell, I'd love to get the money back from all the stupid accesories I've bought for console games and use it to upgrade to Vista and get some more memory.
So I guess you're saying you prefer console games, since you have so many listed? I'm not sure what you're saying with that link, since there are PC and console games there.
There are plenty more console games than PC games, and all the PC games (except for The Incredible Machines) ran on my ancient AST computer running Windows 98 with hardware meant for running Windows 95.
And finally, not all gamers are prepared to overhaul their computers to play games. You have to factor in the convenience cost of throwing a console next to your TV, picking up a controller, and just playing the damn game, without having to spend hours installing new OS software and drivers.
Hey, that's the reason I'm a console gamer. I didn't say PC gaming was easy, I said in the long run it's cheaper than buying the new consoles all the time. This is, of course, considering you buy about two consoles plus a portable during each generation to play the most amount of games that you want. I mean, yeah, if you only buy a Nintendo products, then you're right. But I'm talking about Wii + PS3, or Wii + 360, or 360 + PS3, and that's just this gen. Maybe last gen you had an X-Box and a PS2? And before that, PSX and N64? And some Game Boys and the like as well.
Because you strayed from my original point at the end. Just look at my edit (you posted while I was typing, sneaky bastard ). Again, I was just saying it's cheaper to PC game than console game if you buy lots of consoles. It probably is cheaper for you to console game, if you're a Nintendo only kind of guy.
No! This conversation pales in comparisson to the importance of understanding the various features our body has to offer us SUCH AS A WORKING IMMUNE SYSTEM.
Heh, I can't be held accountable for responding to a post that changed its content after I replied!
Ah well, since we both apparently aren't fans of PC gaming, we'll just stick to the consoles.
None of the previous content was changed. I just had to add more to it rather than double post. That's why I hate you sneaky "post while someone is typing" people! Seriously, everyone who does that needs to knock it off.
And yeah... I'll stick to consoles. Except the PC games I already have, obviously. I just dusted off my joystick for some old-school mech battling in G-NOME, the game I'd be surpised that anyone here has heard of.
Did the dust from your joystick elicit any swelling and redness of your skin or increase production of mucus at all? BECAUSE THAT IS AN IMMUNE RESPONSE.
Did the dust from your joystick elicit any swelling and redness of your skin or increase production of mucus at all? BECAUSE THAT IS AN IMMUNE RESPONSE.
No, but it left a few gray spots on the shirt I cleaned it with. (just an old, ratty shirt)
I like console gaming because computers don't involve controllers, couches, or really big screens. Unless you buy extra stuff, and I'm not an aftermarket computer kinda guy.
Yes I have to also throw in my love of the Wiimote. I've seen several mouthwatering possibilities of gameplay to come. Like RedSteel's swordfights. Not the greatest game, but makes me hopeful. Also, the bat minigame in Rayman. Flight felt really natural, I would love to see some kind of dragon game or something.
I like console gaming because computers don't involve controllers, couches, or really big screens. Unless you buy extra stuff, and I'm not an aftermarket computer kinda guy.
Couches, really big screens, and extra controllers (since PCs come with mouse and keyboard which is equal to a controller coming with the console) don't come with the consoles either... I mean, yay console gaming, but this statement doesn't make any sense.
And yep. Major love for the Wiimote right here. Much better than that stinky Sixaxis.
You can't hold a keyboard in your hands ten feet away from your computer whilst laying sideways (not comfortably, anyway).
About the couch and big screen, with the computer I'm forced to sit in a regular, not-so-comfortable chair, and to use the monitor it comes with, instead of the TV the consoles hook up to, which is in almost all cases bigger. Except right at the moment because our dorm has a cheap junker TV that'll be replaced soon.
Sure, consoles don't come with TVs, but it's presumed you have one, like it's presumed you'll have that uncomfortable chair with the computer.
I set up a Mac mini for entertainment center purposes (playing music and watching DVDs and such), but since we didn't have a remote control for it, we had to use a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse. It worked okay, except the mouse kept unpairing and a keyboard is a bit awkward to balance on one's lap. Also, it was left out too often and used with unclean hands (a byproduct of eating in front of the 'tube), so the keyboard got pretty gross after awhile.
I had a wireless mouse, once. Sucked hard. You'd be using it and it'd deactivate, forcing you to click until it decided to wake up. But a keyboard shouldn't be heard to balance on your lap, unless you're sitting with your legs crossed. But a computer for watching DVDs? Eww.
The media-playing worked great, actually. Apple's Front Row software does wonders for such things. I still intend to set up a Mac with this purpose in mind, I just need to pick up a good remote for it first.
Ok.. Since my post seemed to spawn a whole lot of crud, I guess I should explain myself. The reason I would rather play games on pc is simple. Keyboard and mouse. As far as I'm concerned controllers blow hard for fps. I'm not denying that some of the best games ever came on for consoles but I would rather play hl2 or any hl2 mod on my pc while listening to music and chatting on msn.
It's not that I have problems playing media on a PC. It's just sitting in front of a computer screen feels so unnatural for watching a movie.
That's why I had it hooked up to a TV, like you generally do with media center PCs. Hence the need to balance the keyboard instead of having it sitting comfortably on its desk, and the need for a remote control solution.
You don't chat on MSN as much as you chat with MSN. Here's how a typical conversation on MSN goes:
<you> hello [person you were trying to talk to]
<MSN> This message could not be delivered. Please close the window and try again.
<you> *you close the window and try again* hi
<MSN> This message could not be delivered. Please close the window and try again.
<you> ... *you do so once more* hello?
<MSN> This message could not be delivered. Please close the window and try again.
<you> >_< *uninstalls MSN, and finds the same person on YIM and/or AIM and resumes conversation there* MSN sucks. I've been trying to talk to you but it won't send my messages. But hello!
<your friend> Huh? I got all your messages, I was just a bit occupied and couldn't answer.
<you> kidfjoiwjrtoieugi43jklfdkgk!@!1!+ *explodes*
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And finally, not all gamers are prepared to overhaul their computers to play games. You have to factor in the convenience cost of throwing a console next to your TV, picking up a controller, and just playing the damn game, without having to spend hours installing new OS software and drivers.
Yeah, bad example I guess. It doesn't count all the consoles you have to buy, all the accessories (extra controllers, memory cards, cables, etc.). Hell, I'd love to get the money back from all the stupid accesories I've bought for console games and use it to upgrade to Vista and get some more memory.
There are plenty more console games than PC games, and all the PC games (except for The Incredible Machines) ran on my ancient AST computer running Windows 98 with hardware meant for running Windows 95.
Hey, that's the reason I'm a console gamer. I didn't say PC gaming was easy, I said in the long run it's cheaper than buying the new consoles all the time. This is, of course, considering you buy about two consoles plus a portable during each generation to play the most amount of games that you want. I mean, yeah, if you only buy a Nintendo products, then you're right. But I'm talking about Wii + PS3, or Wii + 360, or 360 + PS3, and that's just this gen. Maybe last gen you had an X-Box and a PS2? And before that, PSX and N64? And some Game Boys and the like as well.
Ah well, since we both apparently aren't fans of PC gaming, we'll just stick to the consoles.
None of the previous content was changed. I just had to add more to it rather than double post. That's why I hate you sneaky "post while someone is typing" people! Seriously, everyone who does that needs to knock it off.
And yeah... I'll stick to consoles. Except the PC games I already have, obviously. I just dusted off my joystick for some old-school mech battling in G-NOME, the game I'd be surpised that anyone here has heard of.
No, but it left a few gray spots on the shirt I cleaned it with. (just an old, ratty shirt)
The Wii Remote may rock the hardest of all controllers of all time. Turning it sideways to play NES games? Inspired.
Hail to Nintendo for demolishing the monotony.
Couches, really big screens, and extra controllers (since PCs come with mouse and keyboard which is equal to a controller coming with the console) don't come with the consoles either... I mean, yay console gaming, but this statement doesn't make any sense.
And yep. Major love for the Wiimote right here. Much better than that stinky Sixaxis.
About the couch and big screen, with the computer I'm forced to sit in a regular, not-so-comfortable chair, and to use the monitor it comes with, instead of the TV the consoles hook up to, which is in almost all cases bigger. Except right at the moment because our dorm has a cheap junker TV that'll be replaced soon.
Sure, consoles don't come with TVs, but it's presumed you have one, like it's presumed you'll have that uncomfortable chair with the computer.
Wait, what? Now it's just halvco? What the hell is going on here...
Oof. I guess I should have added more choices in the poll (and a time lock). Oh well, more consoles coming in about five years.:D
That's why I had it hooked up to a TV, like you generally do with media center PCs. Hence the need to balance the keyboard instead of having it sitting comfortably on its desk, and the need for a remote control solution.
You don't chat on MSN as much as you chat with MSN. Here's how a typical conversation on MSN goes:
Yeah. I hate MSN. A whole lot.
Hotmail has China by the balls.
So you use AIM instead?