SPOILERS!! Only read on if you've already seen/don't care about the story events of Doctor Who!!!
Well, first, I think the whole thing with the Master is inconsistent with narrative intent. It's BECAUSE he tries to save the Master's life that that episode is so significant... I mean, come on, the Doctor has this immense guilt over the events of the Time War, and he thinks he's all alone. And even though the Master is one of the most horrible villains of the series, the Doctor still wants him alive... because he's the only other Time Lord (he thinks, anyway) and he wants so badly to not be alone. I get that inconsistency, I think it works well. And with the Family of Blood, well, you might write that off as overzealous writers, but you could always explain it as extreme irony because their whole goal was to live forever by stealing the Doctor's life force... and so he gave them their wish.
So other than with the Master, I don't think he shows inconsistency with the way he deals with other villains (or other people). There's a pretty consistent pattern that you see... Ten is all about giving whatever it is a chance to stop... a chance to leave it all alone and go away. And they never take it, and that's when he will do anything to stop them. And with friendly people, he's always really friendly (if a little blunt sometimes) and stays that way unless you do something to piss him off, like Harriet Jones firing on the Sycorax. His change in demeanor toward her seems so characteristic of Ten to me. And the way he deals with Mickey compared to Nine... it's worlds different because of the character. Nine treated him as inferior, maybe because of some jealousy, maybe because of his spinelessness at the beginning of the series, but Ten won't insult him because he's not a BAD person.
Of course, I feel somewhat ill-equipped to fully differentiate between the actor and the writers, though I can certainly try, and I feel like even when he gets a bad script, both Tennant and Eccleston shone. Eccleston was totally intense with his emotions, whereas Tennant is just infectiously cheerful.. until he gets pissed off.
Though really, this all begs the bigger question: what makes personality in a television/film character? I've always thought that a character with personality is one whose actions and responses you can predict in unfamiliar situations, and I feel like I could do that with both Nine and Ten. Megan and I were watching Old Who, actually, and we keep asking what Ten would do in these situations, and invariably we start postulating and acting out what it would be. But I don't end up confused... I can think of exactly what he would do because I DO feel like he's got a consistent personality. But what is your definition of personality?
It won't seem like it when you start, it's too good.
At any rate, I really liked both the ninth and tenth Doctor. DI, what you see as a lack of personality I see as him trying to get over his problems from the ninth by hiding them.
And god, it's not quite so monstrous a task if you just focus on the new series first. I think that's probably a smart move. Starting with William Hartnell in 1963 would just be..... painful.
My family is obsessed with that show... never got into it. I've seen a bunch of the episodes just walking around my house though, and I gotta say, I like Ten better than Nine.
You know, Ten was in Harry Potter 4. I'm just sayin.
Man, Eccleston was great in G.I. Joe: Rise of Cobra.
Just kidding, never saw it. Was he any good in that?
Just kidding again. There's no way he was. The fact that he even took that role highlights what a colossally bad actor he is. He only has one character: Furrowed-brow Englishman.
Today was the Chinese New Years eve. I went to a friend's house at lunch to be stuffed full of delicious homecooked food by parents, then I went to another friend's home to be treated to even more delicious homecooked food. I've had duck, pork, chicken, fish, dumplings, vegetables, hot pot (giant pot filled with food), tofu, giant dumplings, more duck, more pork, more chicken, more fish, more dumplings I helped hand make, rice wine, red wine, Chinese white wine, more red wine, fruit, and that's just the stuff I remember. And I've set off a few fireworks that have enough concussive force that you feel it in your chest when they go off.
Now I'm sitting back, drinking a beer and watching the snow fall for the fourth time this year in a city that normally doesn't get it at all.
Life's been good lately. How is everyone else doing?
Good? Wow though, sounds like fun, and also exhausting.
That brings up an interesting question actually. Are the holidays as tiring and dreaded there as they are here? Or have they stuck to the original day-of-rest sort of traditions that holidays tend to start with?
I'm sure at least some people find it tiring. But I'm not privy to that information, I always spend time with well-adjusted people who like each other.
EDIT: HOLY SHIT TRIPLE POST FTW!! YOU GUYS SUCK SO MUCH BECAUSE YOU DON'T DRINK MORE
Matt, you're amazing. Rob, you're amazing. Ryan, you're amazing even though you're third on the list. You guys- seriously- you are fucking awesome. Adam, you're amazing, I'm sorry I'm a bitch to you sometimes. Mario, you're AMAZING I LOVE YOU. Carter you're amazing but seriously you gotta figure out girls a little more than you do now, you kind of weird me out sometimes about how you talk about women. Other Matt, I remember your name, you're funneh. Scott, I'm glad you started talkin to me, you're awesome. Jake I miss you like crazy Andrew you're awesome!!!!
OMG I got distracted and I can't remember other people.
Hey guys there haven't been many posts like this in a while. This needs to change. For reals. I miss personalized drunk messages....
I suppose that's fair enough. It's just super easy for me to drink here-- last night I came home from dropping off a friend and I heard a huge party going on on the roof, so I just dropped by and as soon as I got there a guy saw me and was like HEY WANT A BEER?
Ohhh college. The part of campus I live in is CRAZY for parties. If I wanted to, I could just wander around the neighborhood and get smashed. Dunno how safe that would be, but it's an option!
And oh, Bruce. I do love you too, I'm terribly sorry I forgot to mention it last night. At one point in the post my roommate started talking to me and I was like "OKAY post is good enough"
First post in long ass thread. Lauren is telling me what to type
HELP MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
She wants me to let it be known that it is my 21st birthday, and she will get me drunk. Also: I heard it was metal avatar month, so I totally made mine a steel slinky. Am I doing it right? >_>
Guys? Is it really only like...... 4 members of the forums that ever get drunk???
Spread the love. I'm in love with every single member of the forums right now. RYAN I'm so sorry you were third on my list last time. You're fucking amazing. Rob, you're amazing too, I'm SO SORRY I don't talk to you as much as I use to. I love you so much. I need to talk to you more. MATT you're still amazing. MARIO you're amazing too. Andrew and Rob and Adam and Scott and other Matt and Carter and fuck there are too many people to remember right now. And Jake. And..... fuckin..... god damnit. BRUCE. Dude I love you. And.... Tanya, and, fuckin.... QueenQuenlin... she hasn't been on here in years....... but she was awesome.
Dude seriously I am SO drunk right now, it's actually VERY hard for me to type right now and usually it's no probem. But guys....
It depresses the fuck out of me when I come visit the forums and no one new has updated. Seriously. I LOVE this place. Please please please post more. Start random-ass threads. I'll post I promise. I miss you guys. A lot.
I love you. GOODNIGHT. MAKE MORE POSTS OF LOVE.
This forum is dying and it makes me very, very, VERY sad.
LOVE YOU ALL!!!
EDIT: Also it took me like 5 attempts to hit the post button. I like to use the f word when I'm drunk as fuck. So yeah. Sorry if I offended anyone. GOODNIGHT
I've still been hesitant to get drunk alone in general, and I didn't get around to going anywhere for St. Patty's Day. But if it means expressing my love for the forumites, I think I'll manage to do it soon enough. Maybe we should have another forum chatroom for such goings-on!
I never get around to logging into my chat accounts these days. I never quite seem to leave my "work" account. On the other hand I'm logged into skype pretty constantly.
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Well, first, I think the whole thing with the Master is inconsistent with narrative intent. It's BECAUSE he tries to save the Master's life that that episode is so significant... I mean, come on, the Doctor has this immense guilt over the events of the Time War, and he thinks he's all alone. And even though the Master is one of the most horrible villains of the series, the Doctor still wants him alive... because he's the only other Time Lord (he thinks, anyway) and he wants so badly to not be alone. I get that inconsistency, I think it works well. And with the Family of Blood, well, you might write that off as overzealous writers, but you could always explain it as extreme irony because their whole goal was to live forever by stealing the Doctor's life force... and so he gave them their wish.
So other than with the Master, I don't think he shows inconsistency with the way he deals with other villains (or other people). There's a pretty consistent pattern that you see... Ten is all about giving whatever it is a chance to stop... a chance to leave it all alone and go away. And they never take it, and that's when he will do anything to stop them. And with friendly people, he's always really friendly (if a little blunt sometimes) and stays that way unless you do something to piss him off, like Harriet Jones firing on the Sycorax. His change in demeanor toward her seems so characteristic of Ten to me. And the way he deals with Mickey compared to Nine... it's worlds different because of the character. Nine treated him as inferior, maybe because of some jealousy, maybe because of his spinelessness at the beginning of the series, but Ten won't insult him because he's not a BAD person.
Of course, I feel somewhat ill-equipped to fully differentiate between the actor and the writers, though I can certainly try, and I feel like even when he gets a bad script, both Tennant and Eccleston shone. Eccleston was totally intense with his emotions, whereas Tennant is just infectiously cheerful.. until he gets pissed off.
Though really, this all begs the bigger question: what makes personality in a television/film character? I've always thought that a character with personality is one whose actions and responses you can predict in unfamiliar situations, and I feel like I could do that with both Nine and Ten. Megan and I were watching Old Who, actually, and we keep asking what Ten would do in these situations, and invariably we start postulating and acting out what it would be. But I don't end up confused... I can think of exactly what he would do because I DO feel like he's got a consistent personality. But what is your definition of personality?
At any rate, I really liked both the ninth and tenth Doctor. DI, what you see as a lack of personality I see as him trying to get over his problems from the ninth by hiding them.
You know, Ten was in Harry Potter 4. I'm just sayin.
Just kidding, never saw it. Was he any good in that?
Just kidding again. There's no way he was. The fact that he even took that role highlights what a colossally bad actor he is. He only has one character: Furrowed-brow Englishman.
Totally thought Valentine's Day was gonna be depressing. Hell yes.... this weekend is gonna be awesome.
Now I'm sitting back, drinking a beer and watching the snow fall for the fourth time this year in a city that normally doesn't get it at all.
Life's been good lately. How is everyone else doing?
That brings up an interesting question actually. Are the holidays as tiring and dreaded there as they are here? Or have they stuck to the original day-of-rest sort of traditions that holidays tend to start with?
Also, happy valentine's day everyone. Hope you managed to make the most of it!
EDIT: HOLY SHIT TRIPLE POST FTW!! YOU GUYS SUCK SO MUCH BECAUSE YOU DON'T DRINK MORE
Matt, you're amazing. Rob, you're amazing. Ryan, you're amazing even though you're third on the list. You guys- seriously- you are fucking awesome. Adam, you're amazing, I'm sorry I'm a bitch to you sometimes. Mario, you're AMAZING I LOVE YOU. Carter you're amazing but seriously you gotta figure out girls a little more than you do now, you kind of weird me out sometimes about how you talk about women. Other Matt, I remember your name, you're funneh. Scott, I'm glad you started talkin to me, you're awesome. Jake I miss you like crazy
OMG I got distracted and I can't remember other people.
Hey guys there haven't been many posts like this in a while. This needs to change. For reals. I miss personalized drunk messages....
Send me some love.
Ohhh college. The part of campus I live in is CRAZY for parties. If I wanted to, I could just wander around the neighborhood and get smashed. Dunno how safe that would be, but it's an option!
And oh, Bruce. I do love you too, I'm terribly sorry I forgot to mention it last night. At one point in the post my roommate started talking to me and I was like "OKAY post is good enough"
good night my friends
HELP MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
She wants me to let it be known that it is my 21st birthday, and she will get me drunk. Also: I heard it was metal avatar month, so I totally made mine a steel slinky. Am I doing it right? >_>
Don't answer that
edit: always i wanna be with you
and make believe with you
and live in harmony harmony oh love
Spread the love. I'm in love with every single member of the forums right now. RYAN I'm so sorry you were third on my list last time. You're fucking amazing. Rob, you're amazing too, I'm SO SORRY I don't talk to you as much as I use to. I love you so much. I need to talk to you more. MATT you're still amazing. MARIO you're amazing too. Andrew and Rob and Adam and Scott and other Matt and Carter and fuck there are too many people to remember right now. And Jake. And..... fuckin..... god damnit. BRUCE. Dude I love you. And.... Tanya, and, fuckin.... QueenQuenlin... she hasn't been on here in years....... but she was awesome.
Dude seriously I am SO drunk right now, it's actually VERY hard for me to type right now and usually it's no probem. But guys....
It depresses the fuck out of me when I come visit the forums and no one new has updated. Seriously. I LOVE this place. Please please please post more. Start random-ass threads. I'll post I promise. I miss you guys. A lot.
I love you. GOODNIGHT. MAKE MORE POSTS OF LOVE.
This forum is dying and it makes me very, very, VERY sad.
LOVE YOU ALL!!!
EDIT: Also it took me like 5 attempts to hit the post button. I like to use the f word when I'm drunk as fuck. So yeah. Sorry if I offended anyone. GOODNIGHT