Once again, I can't help but point out that Google fixed the problem almost immediately, before this lawsuit even showed up on the radar... What is with people, almost seems like they're holding a grudge for it.
This is stupid. If you don't know whether the privacy invasion is intentional or not, maybe you could just ask Google to stop? Why does a lawsuit ever have to be the first course of action?
Intentionality isn't really relevant in these cases, nor does it matter if Google has already stopped. The lawsuit aims for Google to compensate for the damage that it already (allegedly) caused during the minutes/hours/days that the privacy invasion went on.
It's a little bit like if I run someone over: it doesn't matter if I meant to do it or not, they're going to want to be compensated for the damage caused.
Eh. Accidents happen. Lawsuits don't need to. If somebody ran me over by no fault of their own, I would only sue if I was unable to cover the medical costs.
You say you'd only go after money if you couldn't afford the medical costs, but on that note, why should you have to pay for something you didn't cause? Furthermore, what damage is done to a man who isn't held accountable for his actions? If I run a person over, and then I don't fix what I broke (either on my own or by being forced to), then what sort of man am I?
Answer: not a man at all.
You do people a DISSERVICE when you don't hold them accountable. That's a dick move in my book.
Notice that I said "if somebody ran me over by no fault of their own". I'm talking about things like poor visibility, vehicle malfunction, road conditions, or my own carelessness. Just because my life might get screwed up from the crash, why should I screw someone else's life up as well?
People should certainly be accountable for things they do, but not for pure accidents. This Google thing sounds like an accident. Like someone said, maybe they didn't foresee these results in their testing. It seems like they fixed the problem the moment it was pointed out to them. Why isn't that and a sincere apology enough?
Because they it's still something they did. They were being careless. There was no "bad weather" here to blame. No other factor forced their hand on this. Google is responsible. Period. No they didn't mean to. Yes, they simply "goofed" as will happen sometimes, but that doesn't mean they are not responsible and should not be held accountable. In this case an apology and fixing the product so it doesn't cause problems, doesn't fix the damage it already caused.
Of course, some young prick lawyer fresh out of college (or even still in it?) trying to sue them over it doesn't really help either, so that's still a bit of a load of bullshit.
Of course I could also cite an overdependence on google products by some people as well...
Alright, if you show me some provable monetary damages that have been caused by this application then I'll agree that Google should repay those damages -- and just those damages, not some inflated multimillion dollar figure. The articles have shown that this flaw can cause problems, but they don't show that it has. Until then, I don't see why Google should pay a cent.
There are other reasons to sue people than to just recoup monetary damages. The main reason I see is a case where a person did something contrary to common decency. In this case you want to discourage them from doing it again. Hitting a big company in the wallet helps for that.
Now, in this Google case, I'm not about getting Google. Trusting your personal information with a company who allows you to use their servers for free? Probably not the best idea. I could argue that Google, in fact, can't be held liable for any damage resulting from release of your personal information ever. Yeah, it's your info... but what are you doing leaving it in a place that's not guaranteed to be safe?
That's like me locking up my collection of sweet, jewel-encrusted cod pieces in a gym's locker room. Then some jerk comes along and steals my cod piece. Shit, now I'm down one magnificent and sparkling cock-garb. What to do? I know, let me sue the gym.................................................... except that doesn't follow the trail of logic at all. Sure they provided the lockers, but they made no guarantee that the stuff I put in there would be safe. The best person to blame in this would be the guy who stole my gleaming meat sock. He's not around, though, so I guess I better suck it up and start spinning a new-and-even-more-luxurious thrusting-headed dick carapace.
Notice that I said "if somebody ran me over by no fault of their own". I'm talking about things like poor visibility, vehicle malfunction, road conditions, or my own carelessness.
If it's your own carelessness that caused the accident, then by all means absorb the damages.
If it's vehicle malfunction, then that falls to the manufacturer if the car is new; the vehicle owner if it's a bit older and he's failed to service it for awhile; or the servicing mechanic if the car HAS been serviced, but serviced poorly.
If it's poor visibility or road conditions, then why is the operator not driving more slowly? Why is he driving at all? Those are the driver's fault.
The only car accident situation I can imagine where nobody should be held liable is one where some natural disaster flings an automobile into the air and it lands on you. In every other case, somebody was being careless with their multi-ton, metal battering ram.
If you don't agree with me on this, then we'll just have to agree to disagree. If you think that somebody slip-sliding on an icy road when it's 20° outside is not their fault, then we disagree at a level too fundamental to reconcile through conversation.
So, today basically confirmed that my mother is a grade-A cow.
My sister, in her infinite capacity to do idiotic things, spilt a cup of tea onto the base station of our wireless telephone. My mother decides it is somehow my fault and orders me to buy her a new one to the tune of £30. Upon refusing to do this, she threatens to kick me out if I don't do as she says.
MY ex DELETED me from Facebook (when we broke up) and we haven't spoken in almost a year. But I think I like it that way, so I understand where your contemptible hate comes from.
I've been slightly busy the past few days, what with Spring Break. I plan my schedule way busier for Spring Break than I do for a normal school week. IS that really weird?
So, hate-related statement: I LOATHE linear algebra.
I miss linear algebra. It is fundamentally important in 3D engines for games. Trigonometry is a good thing too.
I also hate when it is so very quiet, but I just dug up another old webcomic with a large archive I hadn't read yet. Now I'm a little behind on my work. I blame you all for failing to distract me from distracting myself. Certainly I cannot be held responsible for my own actions, so it MUST be your faults. Somehow.
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Intentionality isn't really relevant in these cases, nor does it matter if Google has already stopped. The lawsuit aims for Google to compensate for the damage that it already (allegedly) caused during the minutes/hours/days that the privacy invasion went on.
It's a little bit like if I run someone over: it doesn't matter if I meant to do it or not, they're going to want to be compensated for the damage caused.
Answer: not a man at all.
You do people a DISSERVICE when you don't hold them accountable. That's a dick move in my book.
People should certainly be accountable for things they do, but not for pure accidents. This Google thing sounds like an accident. Like someone said, maybe they didn't foresee these results in their testing. It seems like they fixed the problem the moment it was pointed out to them. Why isn't that and a sincere apology enough?
Of course, some young prick lawyer fresh out of college (or even still in it?) trying to sue them over it doesn't really help either, so that's still a bit of a load of bullshit.
Of course I could also cite an overdependence on google products by some people as well...
Now, in this Google case, I'm not about getting Google. Trusting your personal information with a company who allows you to use their servers for free? Probably not the best idea. I could argue that Google, in fact, can't be held liable for any damage resulting from release of your personal information ever. Yeah, it's your info... but what are you doing leaving it in a place that's not guaranteed to be safe?
That's like me locking up my collection of sweet, jewel-encrusted cod pieces in a gym's locker room. Then some jerk comes along and steals my cod piece. Shit, now I'm down one magnificent and sparkling cock-garb. What to do? I know, let me sue the gym.................................................... except that doesn't follow the trail of logic at all. Sure they provided the lockers, but they made no guarantee that the stuff I put in there would be safe. The best person to blame in this would be the guy who stole my gleaming meat sock. He's not around, though, so I guess I better suck it up and start spinning a new-and-even-more-luxurious thrusting-headed dick carapace.
If it's your own carelessness that caused the accident, then by all means absorb the damages.
If it's vehicle malfunction, then that falls to the manufacturer if the car is new; the vehicle owner if it's a bit older and he's failed to service it for awhile; or the servicing mechanic if the car HAS been serviced, but serviced poorly.
If it's poor visibility or road conditions, then why is the operator not driving more slowly? Why is he driving at all? Those are the driver's fault.
The only car accident situation I can imagine where nobody should be held liable is one where some natural disaster flings an automobile into the air and it lands on you. In every other case, somebody was being careless with their multi-ton, metal battering ram.
If you don't agree with me on this, then we'll just have to agree to disagree. If you think that somebody slip-sliding on an icy road when it's 20° outside is not their fault, then we disagree at a level too fundamental to reconcile through conversation.
My sister, in her infinite capacity to do idiotic things, spilt a cup of tea onto the base station of our wireless telephone. My mother decides it is somehow my fault and orders me to buy her a new one to the tune of £30. Upon refusing to do this, she threatens to kick me out if I don't do as she says.
Needless to say, I'm not budging on this.
Thanks a lot for dredging up lots of unpleasant feelings :hulk:
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I've been slightly busy the past few days, what with Spring Break. I plan my schedule way busier for Spring Break than I do for a normal school week. IS that really weird?
So, hate-related statement: I LOATHE linear algebra.
I also hate when it is so very quiet, but I just dug up another old webcomic with a large archive I hadn't read yet. Now I'm a little behind on my work. I blame you all for failing to distract me from distracting myself. Certainly I cannot be held responsible for my own actions, so it MUST be your faults. Somehow.